Gene Smith has been Director of Athletics at Ohio State for 17 years. He joins the show with AJ Maestas to discuss the current state of college athletics, plus the impact that NIL and a possible CFP expansion will have on the landscape.

Gene also shares lessons he learned from his parents at a young age that helped him overcome adversity early in his career.

Listen to the interview here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/gene-smith-ohio-state/id1544529117?i=1000544309578